Hmm...these photos don't really show the true color..its a true burnt orange/brown.. and in these photos it looks more red..oh well, I'll try again maybe in better lighting.. and it was decided that we will repaint the ceiling white..it should open it up.. and now we also need a new light for over the dining area.. something smaller then the original Pottery Barn one I bought. Oh and some bad news.. bad storm last n ight and we have a small leak in the roof where the rest of the chimney is... sigh, its neverending.. new roof I guess might be the answer:-(